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    2DragVoltTurn ~Roxas/Paradox

    Post by Roxie on Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:55 pm

    2DragVoltTurn!
    From Roxas


    Hello friends, it's been a while since I've written an RMT on almost anything. I've become bored recently, and went to a few places to battle (Oh, by the way, TH battles are hopefully fixed seeing as I had one the other day and it worked perfectly), and I've been needing to make a few new teams, and one of them is a Duo Dragon Volt Turn team (as the name I gave it because of reasons I'll get into in a moment).

    The name "2DragVoltTurn" is basically a 2Drag4Mag and a VoltTurn team mixed together (see what I did there with the name?). It uses the Volt Switch/U-turn specialty, along with two strong dragons to utilize a fun, quick paced (depending on the opponent) battle since that's what I've been into lately.

    Now, a cool song I've been listening to lately (always gotta have a song, ya know? Music is my heart man) has been "The Sharpest Lives" by My Chemical Romance. The lyrics "The sharpest lives are the deadlist to lead" sorta makes sense into this seeing as some of the sharpest and main pokemon on the team, are defeated quickly (BECAUSE I'M A HORRIBLE BATTLER LOL). So in a sense, the sharpest lives being the deadlist to lead, ties into my two Dragons.


    Onto the team:
    - - - - -

    Building Process:

    In the process of building this team (I know right, I normally never add a process onto my RMTs) I thought "What two dragons would be interesting to see on the team, and then what could possibly help back them up, and what pokemon can cover the other pokemon's weakness?". Since I knew the idea of the team (not the Pokemon yet) I knew that I needed two dragon type Pokemon, and four other pokemon to be able to spin around setting up and clearing a path for the two dragons. So I first thought of my first Dragon, Latios. I haven't used my favorite Dragon type in a LONG time, and he's been showing up a lot lately, so I thought "Hm... Maybe Latios would be good for this." and so far he has.


    Then I thought, "Well damn, now I'd need a Turner to keep the opposing team in wonder." and since Genesect was one of the main pokemon dominating the Wifi/OU tier lately, I thought I'd give my old pal a try out on this team (because who uses Scizor over Genesect anyway? *shot*). I told myself, Genesect has good speed, Special Attack, Attack, and is amazing with a Scarf, so let's go for it. I'm assuming you guys will bring up that Genesect is uber. Well friends, I'm not using Smogon tiers this time (*shot twice*). I've been using PO tiers a lot since ever server seems to use them.


    Now, with Rotom-W, I decided to use a bulky attacker instead of a Choice Specs/Scarf, because Rotom-W has some good bulk and is really strong in Special attack, and granted it's speed is something to be a bit more desired, it's still pretty amazing. I also had thought "Well fuck, now I need a Volt Turner to *snicker* turn and bolt out" and the first thing that came to mind was Rotom-W.


    After that I realized, I have No hazards. A good team can always benefit from hazards, am I right? Well, I wanted some-what fast U-turner, and it had to have good attack. So I thought of Landorus, then after thinking some, I thought of the Therian forme. I chose the Therian forme over the Incarnate forme, not only for its attack, but its ability as well. Being able to slice an opposing Pokemon's attack in half is good when it comes to Physical attackers (the pokemon that comes to mind is my favorite, Breloom). Now, granted the Incarnate forme is better in some ways, it's full potential is better used for a SandStorm team in my eyes. So once I set my Therian in place, I thought of something "What do I need to use with him?". Then it hit me, his attack pivot. Two really strong moves, plus a hazard, along with U-turn is/was a good idea to me.


    As the team started to look like it's almost done, I thought "Well shit, now I need my second Dragon". I kept thinking for a while on different options, then remembered on an old 2Drag4Mag team, I had used Haxorus on it and when someone swapped in a Rotom-W against it (I was choice banded on EQ), I remembered Mold Breaker and either 2HKO or OHKO'd the Rotom. When I thought of Haxorus then, I thought of using the same set because it's strength was amazing. I keep thinking "Maybe I should change to a scarf to give him more speed" but then I looked at the 648 attack and cast the thought away.


    Now for the last pokemon, I needed a trapper and I've gotten bored of using the same old Dugtrio for ever trapper. So I thought "Magnezone". I've been using one of Rick's teams (Sorry bud, but I liked Grimaniel Razz) and he had a Magnezone on there and I LOVED it. Choice Specs gives it an amazing special attack, which is really excellent on Mag. Plus, it can trap pokemon such as Heatran, Scizor, Skarmory, and Genesect, so that's a bonus. And to add onto it, it has Volt Switch, which gives me the second VoltTurner I need for my team (plus it becomes super effective against a Skarmory Razz).

    Importable:
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    (Latios) (M) @ Choice Specs
    Trait: (No Ability)
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Draco Meteor
    - Surf
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Trick

    Genesect @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Download
    EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
    - U-turn
    - Flamethrower
    - Thunderbolt
    - Ice Beam

     (Rotom-W) @ Leftovers
    Trait: (No Ability)
    EVs: 184 HP / 4 Def / 144 SAtk / 176 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Volt Switch
    - Hydro Pump
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Pain Split

     (Landorus-T) (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: (No Ability)
    EVs: 200 HP / 64 Atk / 244 Def
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Stealth Rock
    - Earthquake
    - U-turn
    - Stone Edge

     (Haxorus) (M) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Mold Breaker
    EVs: 36 HP / 252 Atk / 220 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Outrage
    - Earthquake
    - Brick Break
    - Dual Chop

     (Magnezone) @ Choice Specs
    Trait: (No Ability)
    EVs: 148 HP / 252 SAtk / 108 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Volt Switch
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Thunderbolt
    - Flash Cannon
    The team in detail:

    First up is, Latios:
    (M) @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Draco Meteor
    - Surf
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Trick

    Ok, so, my first choice was and is Latios with Specs. The reason being is because sure, Latios with a scarf is faster, but with Max special attack, his SpA goes beyond expectations with 528 SpA. It's speed could be desired there, however I wanted to max out with as much Special Attack as I can (besides, Speed won't help much against a normal Tyranitar, more SpA and Surf will). Now on the moves, Draco Meteor is Latios's main move due to its amazing power (with a saddening draw back), and can crush a lot of different Pokemon. Surf is to take on the aformentioned Tyranitar, as well as different Fire types (coughheatrancough) and any Landorus as well as the occasional Volcarona. Hidden Power [Fire] is used mainly against opposing steel types (such as Scizor, Genesect, etc) that don't resist fire type moves (Heatran) although, it would be outsped by Genesect and perhaps Scizor. Trick is to cripple other pokemon by swapping the item in hopes of being able to be more free.


    Next up, Genesect:
    @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Download
    EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
    - U-turn
    - Flamethrower
    - Thunderbolt
    - Ice Beam
    The Genesect here is a CLASSIC. It's basically the only Genesect set I know how to use (mainly because I'm too lazy to check out different sets xD). Genesect gives certain pokemon coverage (mainly Landorus, Latios, and Haxorus, however it helps Rotom as well because Genesect resists Grass moves) from Ice moves. It has a crippling, yet speedful Choice Scarf so it can outsped most anything (assuming the opposing pokemon hasn't been baton passed/has Speed Boost/used speed raising moves). Ice Beam hits the dominating Dragons and The Flying Trio (I believe they're known as the Tao Trio, correct me if I'm wrong), and the unsuspecting Venusaur. Flamethrower is to get rid of trapping pokemon (Magnezone mainly) and any other steels that don't resist fire type moves, as well as other grass type pokemon (Seriously though, how many grass types are in OU? Like... 2?). U-turn is to keep the team flowing constantly and hit psychic types and dark types, as well as keeping them in their place. Thunderbolt is to knock out Tornadus, Skarmory, and other water or flying types basically.


    Third in the team: Rotom-W
    @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 184 HP / 4 Def / 144 SAtk / 176 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Volt Switch
    - Hydro Pump
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Pain Split
    Ok so, Rotom-W here uses its bulk to withstand some attacks, and being able to retaliate with the selected moves, or it can revenge kill with Volt Switch or Hydro Pump. Leftovers keeps its health up (as you all obviously know). Volt Switch to hit any water or flying types, and keeps my team going and going. Hydro Pump takes care of pokemon like Dugtrio, Ninetales, other ground/fire/ types. Will-O-Wisp is to cripple/burn pokemon that can cause some harm to Rotom. Pain Split is so Rotom can be nice and share the pain it feels from the opposing Pokemon (I generally use Pain Split after Will-O-Wisp just in case of situations being Rotom is faster, but its HP went down a lot and burn only does a bit to it). Rotom is also used here as a safeguard against Pokemon trying to hit my Dragons or Landorus.


    Taking the Fourth Slot: Landorus-T
    (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 200 HP / 64 Atk / 244 Def
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Stealth Rock
    - Earthquake
    - U-turn
    - Stone Edge
    I chose Landorus-T, not only for its ability to halve the opponents attack, but to also set out my hazards, and knock off most fighting type moves, grass type moves, and definatly electric type moves. Now this Landorus-T set is a touch and go sort of thing. Stealth Rocks is to make SURE my Hazards get set out. Earthquake is Landorus's STAB move here, and deals some heavy damage to those Pokemon who can get hurt by Earthquake. U-turn is to obviously hit dark types and psychic types who could pose a powerful threat to my team, as well as laughing at the pokemon who thought of using an electric move against any of my Pokemon. Stone Edge is to knock out the flying types that don't resist it (so... Skarmory, lol).


    My second Dragon: Haxorus
    (M) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Mold Breaker
    EVs: 36 HP / 252 Atk / 220 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Outrage
    - Earthquake
    - Brick Break
    - Dual Chop
    Ah Haxorus, an amazing attack if nothing else. This pokemon right here has a REALLY high attack thanks to Choice Band, although I wish it could be somewhat faster, but it has good enough attack to compensate for that. One Outrage is strong enough to like make a Salamence turn tail after pissing itself (lol, all joking aside). I chose Choice Band as its item because it really boosts Haxorus's attack, quite obviously. Outrage is to strike down other dragon types while severely hurting other pokemon that don't resist Dragon types. Earthquake hits the electric type Pokemon as well as Gengar (hehehe) due to its ability. So it sucks to be Rotom, Gengar, or Elektross in that situation. Brick Break is to severely hurt normal tanks, ice types, and dark types. Dual Chop is to cripple the Screens, and is a somewhat good dragon type move for Haxorus.


    For the final position: Magnezone!

    @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Magnet Pull
    EVs: 148 HP / 252 SAtk / 108 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Volt Switch
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Thunderbolt
    - Flash Cannon
    Magnezone has to be one of my favorite steel types and electric types. Its ability Magnet Pull is awesome, and give it some rockin' [Choice] Specs, and its Special Attack goes soaring. I love Magnezone because I can kill some powerful Steel types (assuming I don't get killed first). Volt Switch is Magnezone's power move to keep swapping in and out. Hidden Power [Fire] is used to off the steel types that don't kill it (so basically, it won't last long, unless it's against Skarmory). Thunderbolt is Mag's hard hitter, used to off most flying types and water types. Flash Cannon is used to wipe out most ice types and gets a power boost from the Specs.


    Last Glance at the Team:
    - - - - -

    Closing thoughts:
    Well, I've made a 2.0/2.5/3.0 version of the team but it's in a trail mode right now and it's pretty good, but not as good as I'd hoped. The current team is weak to hazards because I neglected to put a spinner on there (it's what the 2.0 team made up for). I might edit this to add the 2.0 team in a spoiler tag or something, but other than that if you would like to see the different versions of the team just PM me. Other than that I like this team a lot.

    -Signed
    Roxas/Paradox


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    Start of turn 1
    Gardevoir has Mega Evolved into Mega Gardevoir!
    Gardevoir used Focus Blast!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's 劈斩司令 lost 100% of its health!
    The foe's 劈斩司令 fainted!

    蓝色闪光: ⊙▽⊙
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    Re: 2DragVoltTurn ~Roxas/Paradox

    Post by Crossfire12 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:22 pm

    Oh wow been awhile um will rate later
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    Re: 2DragVoltTurn ~Roxas/Paradox

    Post by Trinitrotoluene on Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:56 pm

    Genesuck, I mean Genesect, is banned from the OU tier, so this team technically cannot be used in standard OU matches. Volcarona also dances circles around your team, thanks to your lack of a Scarf user that can threaten it with STAB, However, I think I can work around these problems with ease. First off, I think that you should run a Scarf Terrakion in your newly-opened team slot. This gives you a powerful check to Volcarona, thanks to its incredible STAB moves, as well as a general revenge killer and steel slayer, allowing your dragons to run freely. Terrakion also gives you a fast option to clean up in the late-game should you need it.

    Now, I think a few changes for the individual members are in order for your team. First off, I don't think that Hidden Power Fire is a necessity for Latios. Sure, it works fine in getting rid of steels, but it's easier to just use Magnezone. I think that Psyshock would be a better option in that slot, giving Latios the ability to rip up opposing Conkeldurr, Keldeo, and Terrakion without having to sacrifice staying potential. Now, for Rotom-W, I think a more defensive spread of 232 HP / 76 SpA / 180 SpD would be more beneficial for your team, giving it a more solid switch-in to Specs Politoed and Starmie, which are threats I'm sure you would not like having to sack stuff against. I'd also recommend trying a ChestoRest set for Rotom-W. This gives your team a more reliable status absorber and Rotom-W a more reliable means of recovery. Finally, for Haxorus, I'd recommend using Superpower over Brick Break, if only for the increased power that it gives. Other than that, I've nothing else to say. I'll edit in a list of changes later.

    Hope this helps. Good luck!


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    Re: 2DragVoltTurn ~Roxas/Paradox

    Post by Roxie on Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:34 pm

    Rick wrote:Genesuck, I mean Genesect, is banned from the OU tier, so this team technically cannot be used in standard OU matches.

    Prometheus wrote:I'm assuming you guys will bring up that Genesect is uber. Well friends, I'm not using Smogon tiers this time (*shot twice*). I've been using PO tiers a lot since ever server seems to use them.

    Was Genesect banned from OU on Beta's tiers?

    With the others, thanks. I'll try out the sets on Latios, Haxorus, and Rotom-W. Terrakion, if I recall correctly, is on one of the other versions, and if not, I'll edit one/make a new one.


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    Start of turn 1
    Gardevoir has Mega Evolved into Mega Gardevoir!
    Gardevoir used Focus Blast!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's 劈斩司令 lost 100% of its health!
    The foe's 劈斩司令 fainted!

    蓝色闪光: ⊙▽⊙
    Shadow Roxas: Noooot this time buddy
    蓝色闪光 forfeited against Shadow Roxas!

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    Re: 2DragVoltTurn ~Roxas/Paradox

    Post by Trinitrotoluene on Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:46 pm

    Sorry about skimming over the intro. However, my points still stand. Volcarona rips your team apart, and I think that Terrakion is the best way to check / counter it.


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    Re: 2DragVoltTurn ~Roxas/Paradox

    Post by Roxie on Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:49 pm

    To be honest, I haven't seen that many Volcaronas anymore. I did notice the weakness to its moves though. Should I add the 2.0+ teams in a spoiler tag or just keep them hidden for my own use? I think certain ones can do away with Volcarona quickly, and others can't.


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    quickest battle ever:

    Start of turn 1
    Gardevoir has Mega Evolved into Mega Gardevoir!
    Gardevoir used Focus Blast!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's 劈斩司令 lost 100% of its health!
    The foe's 劈斩司令 fainted!

    蓝色闪光: ⊙▽⊙
    Shadow Roxas: Noooot this time buddy
    蓝色闪光 forfeited against Shadow Roxas!

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    Re: 2DragVoltTurn ~Roxas/Paradox

    Post by Roxie on Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:23 am

    This is a bump for this.

    I've found out Genesect got banned on OU in Beta tiers (since Dark Devotions runs Beta tiers), so I'm gonna have to swap him out in both this and my 2.5 team (my 2.0 and 3.0 run Scizor). I'm going to attempt to keep him OU in my server (since I figured out how to unban different pokemon in the tiers). However, I will consider getting rid of Genesect completely in a 3.5 (or 3.2 depending on how much I change) with Terrakion.

    Feel free to edit/move this how you please.


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    quickest battle ever:

    Start of turn 1
    Gardevoir has Mega Evolved into Mega Gardevoir!
    Gardevoir used Focus Blast!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's 劈斩司令 lost 100% of its health!
    The foe's 劈斩司令 fainted!

    蓝色闪光: ⊙▽⊙
    Shadow Roxas: Noooot this time buddy
    蓝色闪光 forfeited against Shadow Roxas!

    The window was disabled due to one of the players closing the battle window.

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