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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Nasira on Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:55 pm

    All signs are pointing towards the Lati duo to being version exclusive, and it's looking like Latios will be exclusive to Black, while Latias will be exclusive to White.

    There will also be an Elite 4 Rematch - Challenge Mode where every Pokemon appears to be of Level 77, with their key Pokemon being Level 79.

    Amoonguss with Regenerator will also be availible from a 'Random Tree.'
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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Artist Smeargle on Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:00 pm

    The move tutors are going to be Metagame changers, aren't they? (List for those lazy to click links)

    Bolded are important things:
    Move Tutor can teach you these moves for Red Shards: Covet, Bug Bite, Drill Run, Bounce, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Thunderpunch, Signal Beam, Iron Head, Super Fang, Uproar, Seed Bomb, Double Chop, and Gunk Shot

    Another Move Tutor can teach you these moves for Blue Shards: Last Resort, Iron Defence, Magnet Rise, Magic Coat, Block, Hyper Voice, Electroweb, Icy Wind, Iron Tail, Aqua Tail, Earth Power, Zen Headbutt, Foul Play, Superpower, Gravity, Dragon Pulse and Dark Pulse.

    Yet another MT for Yellow Shards: Bind, Snore, Heal Bell, Drain Punch, Knock Off, Synthesis, Giga Drain, Roost, Sky Attack, Role Play, Heat Wave, Pain Split, and Tailwind

    More Move Tutoring NPCs, takes Green Shards: Worry Seed, Gastro Acid, Helping Hand, After You , Magic Room, Wonder Room, Spite, Recycle, Trick, Stealth Rock, Outrage, Endeavor, Sleep Talk, Skill Swap, and Snatch

    Note that some of the bolded ones I'm not to sure of.


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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Kira Light on Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:01 pm

    • Lenora is said to revive your fossils
    • Alder is battleable; Accelgor Lv. 60, Escavalier Lv. 60, Bouffalant Lv. 60, Conkeldurr Lv. 60, Braviary Lv. 60 & Volcarona Lv. 62
    • Cresselia is Level 68 on the Marvelous Bridge after obtaining the Lunar Wing
    • Numerous skyscrapers and areas within Black City
    • The previous game's playable character is out looking for N
    • After the end of the game, you will meet up with N 20:33; N will battle you and has a Level 70 Zekrom (in Black 2)


    Multiscale Dragonite with Superpower, yay.
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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Nasira on Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:22 pm

    Kira, if you're going to make the effort to delete all the timestamps from the things you've copypasted form Serebii, at least delete the time stamp in 'After the end of the game, you will meet up with N 20:33; N will battle you and has a Level 70 Zekrom (in Black 2)'.. Hahahaha

    I doubt Multiscale Dragonite will get Superpower for some reason.. I hope to be surprised though.
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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by harsha on Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:49 pm

    Dragonite has Superpower from previous gens, I don't think they'd deny if for him.
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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Octillery on Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:36 pm

    I think Dragonite will get Superpower again.

    I'm okay with Iris being the champion, except for one thing: What's with the Aggron?! This marks the second champion to have an Aggron, only one other Pokemon (I think) has been used by two champions, that being Milotic.
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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Trinitrotoluene on Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:26 am

    So...



    According to this image, the new formes of the Kami trio are called the Therian formes.


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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Nasira on Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:27 am

    I much prefer Sacred Beast forme.. .-.

    Their influence on the metagame will be very, very interesting though.
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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by harsha on Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:40 am

    I don't want to put a damper on this, but people are hyping over the new Landorus for absolutely no reason. Therian forme will have a higher base Attack stat -- okay, cool. Even if it had a base 150 Attack stat, it would ultimately be weaker than our standard Landorus for the most part. Landorus is basically only used on sand offense teams because it gets a Sand Force boost -- this means that Stone Edge and Earthquake are coming off of an equivalent of base 195 Attack, which is super powerful. I'm not sure I'll like the Therian forme, though Thundurus will be interesting. If our standard Thundurus was already banned, I don't doubt that this one will be too, though of course suspects will most likely be unbanned with the new games. All these new releases will definitely shape our new metagame, but lower tiers besides UU shouldn't be affected, and I wouldn't be surprised if OU managed to remain unchanged after all the bannings that will occur.


    EDIT: ...... Ok wow.....

    _Keldeo's base stats stay the same, no matter which is its current form.
    _Black Kyurem base stats are indeed 125/170/100/120/90/95 : Total 700 (announced previously in this thread I think)
    _White Kyurem base stats are indeed 125/120/90/170/100/95 : Total 700 (announced previously as well)
    _Tornadus Therian Form base stats are 79/100/80/110/90/121 : Total 580
    _Thundurus Therian Form base stats are 79/105/70/145/80/101 : Total 580
    _Landorus Therian Form base stats are 89/145/90/105/80/91 : Total 600
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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Nasira on Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:51 pm

    Harsha, where have you seen this information? I can't find anything that matches that.. :s
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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by harsha on Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:47 pm

    I copied and pasted that from a Smogon thread. Base 170 Attack / Special Attack is ridiculous... A Choice Scarf set with those two would really wreck, even with the crippling Ice typing.
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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Kira Light on Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:13 pm

    Harsha wrote:I copied and pasted that from a Smogon thread. Base 170 Attack / Special Attack is ridiculous... A Choice Scarf set with those two would really wreck, even with the crippling Ice typing.

    What the heck, Game Freak? -_-
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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Roxie on Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:25 pm

    Yup, B/WKyurem will be going to uber when it's released. No doubt about it.


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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Octillery on Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:30 pm

    I already said this on the server, but not on the forums, but can you imagine a Trick Room + Hail set of Ice Burn, Blizzard, Dragon Pulse, Focus Blast/HP Fire and a Power Herb? That would be insane!
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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Trinitrotoluene on Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:48 pm

    Octillery wrote:I already said this on the server, but not on the forums, but can you imagine a Trick Room + Hail set of Ice Burn, Blizzard, Dragon Pulse, Focus Blast/HP Fire and a Power Herb? That would be insane!

    Why Trick Room? Kyurem is fast enough on its own. Also, with the current sensation over Fighting-types, I can see Kyurem being given a short test run in OU before being tossed up to Uber.


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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Octillery on Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:59 pm

    I said Trick Room because, in Ubers, Kyurem is at that magic number, speed-wise, where it can function with Trick Room or without it, usually with a scarf if without. Trick Room would be, to some extent, probably more viable as a Life Orb sweeper, given the prevalence of Choice Scarf, Mewtwo, Darkrai, etc.

    I found this on Serebii:

    Spoiler:

    Startling item discoveries thanks to bluesun
    Shining Charm - A mysterious shining charm that when held, makes it easier to encounter shiny Pokemon.
    Round Charm - A mysterious unbelievable charm that when held, makes it easier for the Daycare Man to find eggs.
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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Roxie on Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:30 am

    From Serebii:
    Rival's sister mentions hearing about a Zoroark in Victory Road. If you go there and it spots you, it retreats into the cave
    06:07: Following Zoroark leads you to the ruins of N's Castle. N will wish to join you for this portion of the journey. N will lead you to the place of the showdown between Reshiram & Zekrom two years prior and will challenge you using his Reshiram/Zekrom
    06:12; Once you've defeated Reshiram/Zekrom, it will turn into the Light/Dark Stone and N will give it to you 06:16; Drifloon is also a Dream Radar Pokémon
    06:22; Once you take the stone to Dragon Spiral Tower, the dragon will awaken once again, and will be able to be captured. It's at Level 70, once captured, N will appear and note your capture and disagree with its confinement in a ball
    06:26; With Memory Link, if you linked up with Black & White, the props you gained for the Musical carry over as the other player character left it behind
    06:51; When you finally capture Kyurem, it's not actually in it's Black/White forms. It's actually in its normal form at Level 70. Once captured, it leaves behind the DNA Link item which can be used to merge the two Pokémon. The IVs and EVs are that of the Kyurem, ignoring the stats of te Reshiram/Zekrom, , but its moveset changes entirely based on its new form. As such, you can't bring moves across the different forms and you'll need to reteach the moves if you change the form

    That's pretty cool that a Zoroark can lead you to the ruins of N's Castle and you get to battle Reshiram/Zekrom.


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    quickest battle ever:

    Start of turn 1
    Gardevoir has Mega Evolved into Mega Gardevoir!
    Gardevoir used Focus Blast!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's 劈斩司令 lost 100% of its health!
    The foe's 劈斩司令 fainted!

    蓝色闪光: ⊙▽⊙
    Shadow Roxas: Noooot this time buddy
    蓝色闪光 forfeited against Shadow Roxas!

    The window was disabled due to one of the players closing the battle window.
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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Kira Light on Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:36 am

    Bianca gives you the PokeDex.
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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Roxie on Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:42 am

    Kira Light wrote:Bianca gives you the PokeDex.
    She gives you the starter to iirc.


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    quickest battle ever:

    Start of turn 1
    Gardevoir has Mega Evolved into Mega Gardevoir!
    Gardevoir used Focus Blast!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's 劈斩司令 lost 100% of its health!
    The foe's 劈斩司令 fainted!

    蓝色闪光: ⊙▽⊙
    Shadow Roxas: Noooot this time buddy
    蓝色闪光 forfeited against Shadow Roxas!

    The window was disabled due to one of the players closing the battle window.
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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Kira Light on Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:43 am

    So, what are your thoughts on Volcarona getting Giga Drain? It can now beat Gastrodon, Terrakion and Politoed after a boost or two.
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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Roxie on Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:44 am

    Oh fucking god, volcarona will troll a lot of rain teams now.

    From Smogon:
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    Which Legendary Pokemon have been found:
    Reshiram/Zekrom
    Kyurem
    Cobalion
    Terrakion
    Virizion
    Cresselia @ Lv 68
    Latias (White 2)/Latios (Black 2)
    Regigigas
    Uxie
    Regirock @ Lv 65



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    quickest battle ever:

    Start of turn 1
    Gardevoir has Mega Evolved into Mega Gardevoir!
    Gardevoir used Focus Blast!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's 劈斩司令 lost 100% of its health!
    The foe's 劈斩司令 fainted!

    蓝色闪光: ⊙▽⊙
    Shadow Roxas: Noooot this time buddy
    蓝色闪光 forfeited against Shadow Roxas!

    The window was disabled due to one of the players closing the battle window.
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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by harsha on Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:18 am

    It could always beat Politoed and Gastrodon -- in fact, Gastrodon was mostly setup fodder if it didn't carry Toxic (though admittedly, with Toxic it can shorten Volcarona's sweep). To be honest, I'm more surprised that you need to combine a Dragon and Kyurem...


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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Octillery on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:40 pm

    Legendaries found so far:

    Musketeer trio at lv. 45.
    Reshiram/Zekrom/Kyurem caught at lv. 70.
    Lati@s caught at level 65.
    Uxie, Mesprit, possibly Azelf caught at lv. 65.
    Original Regi trio caught at lv. 65.
    Regigigas and Cressalia caught at lv. 68.
    Heatran caught at either lv. 65 or lv. 68.
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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Roxie on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:44 pm

    That is in one of my spoilers...


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    quickest battle ever:

    Start of turn 1
    Gardevoir has Mega Evolved into Mega Gardevoir!
    Gardevoir used Focus Blast!
    It's super effective!
    The foe's 劈斩司令 lost 100% of its health!
    The foe's 劈斩司令 fainted!

    蓝色闪光: ⊙▽⊙
    Shadow Roxas: Noooot this time buddy
    蓝色闪光 forfeited against Shadow Roxas!

    The window was disabled due to one of the players closing the battle window.
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    Re: Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2

    Post by Trinitrotoluene on Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:38 pm

    All Giga Drain is for Volcarona is an attack it can use to eliminate a certain set of checks, while opening another set up. It doesn't help when trying to beat Heatran, its main counter.


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